There is a specific type that loves the Jesuits.
Js? That's those:
The Society of Jesus, or the Jesuits, is a Catholic religious order founded by St. Ignatius of Loyola in 1540. It is known for education, missionary work, intellectual rigor, and a spirituality often summarized as “contemplation in action.” Jesuits take vows of poverty, chastity, obedience, and a special vow of obedience to the Pope regarding mission.
On the statement “Yeah, you can reject dogmatic and mystic same time”:
As a blanket claim against the Jesuits, it is **not really justified**. Here’s why:
1. **Jesuits are not anti-dogmatic.**
Jesuits are a Catholic order and profess Catholic doctrine. Historically, they were major defenders of Catholic orthodoxy during the Counter-Reformation. Figures like St. Robert Bellarmine were leading theologians of Catholic dogma. The order requires fidelity to Church teaching.
2. **Jesuits have a strong mystical tradition.**
Ignatian spirituality is deeply rooted in mysticism. St. Ignatius himself had mystical experiences, and his *Spiritual Exercises* are designed to lead people into contemplative prayer, imaginative meditation on the Gospel, and discernment of spirits. Jesuit spirituality emphasizes “finding God in all things,” which is a form of incarnational, active mysticism.
3. **What the statement may be reacting to:**
Jesuits are often intellectual, dialogical, and pragmatic in approach. They have sometimes been stereotyped as “rationalist” or “casuistic” because they emphasize reasoned argument, moral discernment, and cultural adaptation. This can make them seem less rigidly dogmatic than some other groups and less emotionally mystical than, say, certain contemplative orders. But that is a difference of style, not a rejection of dogma or mysticism.
So if the statement means “Jesuits reject both Catholic dogma and mystical prayer,” it is inaccurate. If it means “Jesuits try to avoid rigid dogmatism and anti-intellectual mysticism,” then there is a kernel of truth—but it is not a fair condemnation of the order as a whole.
On the statement “Yeah, you can reject dogmatic and mystic same time”:
As a blanket claim against the Jesuits, it is **not really justified**. Here’s why:
1. **Jesuits are not anti-dogmatic.**
Jesuits are a Catholic order and profess Catholic doctrine. Historically, they were major defenders of Catholic orthodoxy during the Counter-Reformation. Figures like St. Robert Bellarmine were leading theologians of Catholic dogma. The order requires fidelity to Church teaching.
2. **Jesuits have a strong mystical tradition.**
Ignatian spirituality is deeply rooted in mysticism. St. Ignatius himself had mystical experiences, and his *Spiritual Exercises* are designed to lead people into contemplative prayer, imaginative meditation on the Gospel, and discernment of spirits. Jesuit spirituality emphasizes “finding God in all things,” which is a form of incarnational, active mysticism.
3. **What the statement may be reacting to:**
Jesuits are often intellectual, dialogical, and pragmatic in approach. They have sometimes been stereotyped as “rationalist” or “casuistic” because they emphasize reasoned argument, moral discernment, and cultural adaptation. This can make them seem less rigidly dogmatic than some other groups and less emotionally mystical than, say, certain contemplative orders. But that is a difference of style, not a rejection of dogma or mysticism.
So if the statement means “Jesuits reject both Catholic dogma and mystical prayer,” it is inaccurate. If it means “Jesuits try to avoid rigid dogmatism and anti-intellectual mysticism,” then there is a kernel of truth—but it is not a fair condemnation of the order as a whole.
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PS: Too brutal? The Morgenstern??
